Ep. 86: Joe Wilner – You Have a Calling

Joe Wilner is a life coach, licensed clinical psychotherapist, and drummer from the band Yes You Are. He’s created the You Have a Calling initiative, which includes a blog and an online community helping people discover and pursue their life’s work and mission. Through deep and personalized coaching, he helps ambitious, creative, and spiritually-minded individuals make a greater impact, grow as leaders, and design a soulful life of inspiration. He’s here to share his dream chase journey!

TWEET: “Find out what your #calling is! @JRWilner shares his calling in today’s show!”

The path that sometimes leads to “Now what?”

Have you felt that “stuck” feeling? You’ve worked hard to establish yourself in a position, like Joe did in his private practice, but “Now what?” Is this ALL there is? Joe knows what it’s like to find success but wonder, “Where am I headed and who do I want to become in this life?” Many times, there is MUCH MORE out there. Joe explains how to branch out, while committing and embracing a new dream.

TWEET: “Have you ever asked yourself, where am I headed and who do I want to become in this life?” @JRWilner

The Interesting Chasm

To reach full potential, you have to build on the possibilities. Joe says to KEEP PUSHING, even when you’re not sure where you’re going. Joe describes the “interesting chasm” between having security and stability and following your passion and chasing dreams. “Sometimes you have to be in the flow between these two banks of the river.” Many people have forgotten how to dream and see what’s possible for them.

TWEET: “There is an interesting chasm between #security and #passion in following #dreams.” @JRWilner

Small shift, small changes

Sometimes all you need is a SMALL SHIFT. Often, it’s not the pursuit of a grand dream, but the quality of chasing your dream by making small changes. Your dream won’t always have a “security blanket.” Dreams require vulnerability and sometimes, irresponsibility in following them. You have to be willing to take the risk and realize that not everyone will accept and embrace what you want to do.

TWEET: “Starting small is underrated.” @JRWilner

GUEST RECOMMENDATION: “Get curious and playful. Take ONE step in a direction that is interesting to you and will bring more passion and zest to your life.”


  • [1:16] Joe’s newsletter and the idea behind it, and how drumming became part of his life
  • [5:38] Flexibility: balancing the practice with touring as a musician
  • [8:06] Using the psychotherapy background to help people
  • [11:21] Common challenges in dream-chasing
  • [14:09] What happened to “believing in yourself”?
  • [17:26] The evolution of a life path
  • [19:16] Helping people grow their passion
  • [23:38] Freedom from the 9-5
  • [26:31] Fear of what your family may see
  • [29:50] Be realistic about your vision
  • [33:22] Joe’s online community
  • [35:20] Joe’s ONE ACTION for dream chasers

Resources Mentioned on the Show:

Joe on Instagram

Joe on Facebook

Joe on Twitter

Joe’s Website 


TWEET: “I had to step into the #risk of following my #passion.” @JRWilner

TWEET: “I am surprised at how many people have forgotten to #dream.” @JRWilner

TWEET: “Surround yourself with people who are #positive and #supportive.” @JRWilner

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